Fight Night in the Bronx

Barton Silverman/The New York Times Jorge Posada was restrained by his teammates, including C.C. Sabathia, after a scuffle with members of the Blue Jays Tuesday night.
Jorge Posada has two young children, and he hoped they were not awake to see what happened in the eighth inning Tuesday night at Yankee Stadium. After crossing the plate with a run, Posada elbowed Blue Jays pitcher Jesse Carlson, inciting what seemed to be an especially aggressive brawl near the Yankees’ dugout. [watch video, via MLB.com]
“It’s a tough example,” he said. “I don’t want my kids to see that. Somebody could have gotten hurt. I’m glad that nobody did.”
Posada did not explain why he elbowed Carlson, and he did not say directly that he was sorry. He said he hoped he could avoid a suspension, claiming he did not start anything. Technically, that might be true. Carlson had thrown behind Posada in retaliation for Mark Melancon’s fastball to Aaron Hill’s back. But Posada escalated things.
“As he ran past Carlson, he gave him a little shove with his elbow,” the plate umpire Jim Joyce said. “It was very unsportsmanlike. The pitcher wasn’t looking for anything like that and he ran past him, didn’t say anything and just gave him a shove with his elbow. It was very unsportsmanlike. It was a cheap shot.”
Rod Barajas, the Blue Jays catcher, said he could see the play develop when Brett Gardner with Posada on second. Barajas said he knew Posada would score and knew that Carlson would be backing up.
“Jesse was backing up home, doing what he’s supposed to do,” Barajas said. “He had his back turned to Posada, and as Posada walked by,San Diego Padres Hats sale, he threw an elbow at him. There was intent. It wasn’t like Jesse was in the way and he was trying to avoid him. He saw Jesse, saw where he was and on the way by he threw an elbow. That triggered the whole situation.”
The situation included a welt on Carlson’s forehead (he was also ejected) and a bruise near Manager Joe Girardi’s left eye. Girardi’s left ear was also bloodied.
“I think I’ll probably be a little bit sore tomorrow, but I don’t have to play,” Girardi said.
If the manager is the most seriously injured Yankee,cheap San Diego Padres Hats, that is a relief for the team. As much as Posada helps with his passion and fire, on Tuesday he put his teammates at risk. C.C. Sabathia or Joba Chamberlain could have wound up like the Red Sox’ Bill Lee in 1976, emerging from the melee with a separated shoulder.
Girardi did not criticize any player specifically, but he was not pleased with his team.
“We’ve already had a discussion,” Girardi said. “I told them: ‘There is a lot at stake here, and we can’t afford to get anyone hurt or lose anyone or get people suspended. We can’t do that.’ But there’s a lot of passion in this game.”
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Next » 1. September 16, 2009 2:58 am
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This feels like the day that will be remembered as a major turn for the worse. The combination of Pettite’s sore arm and Matsuzaka’s great start against the Angels is pretty scary.
About the fight, look, Toronto Blue Jays think they are Maple Leafs, I guess. And Posada gets a penalty for elbowing. Then let’s focus again on baseball,cheap Oakland Athletics Hats, guys,DC Comics & Marvel Hats Sale, please.
— bill in beijing 2. September 16, 2009 3:09 am
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A meaningless fight against the Blue Jays is going to do nothing to rile up the Yankees for the playoffs. This was just pointless and beneath Jorge Posada. I’m shocked by this. This seems more like an Arod-four-years-ago move.
— Rob A from BBD 3. September 16, 2009 3:53 am
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God bless Jorge, a hard-nosed Yankee and devoted father of a tough kid who has beaten craniosynostosis, for whom he and his gorgeous wife built a foundation that funds the several painful surgeries required by these patients. I say all these accolades because despite this, Posada committed one of the most boneheaded moves of the year, not only coldcocking a blindsided Carlson,Baltimore Orioles Hats, but endangering not only himself but any number of his teammates, a potentially devastating blow thud late in the year. If his excuse is the timeworn excuse that the other guy started it, he wrong there too: It was Melancon, prospectius underwhelmius, who is quickly getting a bad reputation for unprovoked headhunting, enough that the Yankee powers-that-be told him to cut it out!
I don’t know if Posada had had enough of being this year’s punching bag among the starting staff, and took it out on Carlson, or wanted to prove he backed his pitchers up. Regardless, the way it went down–throwing a cheap elbow to a pitcher looking at the play–demeans everything Posada has stood for in his career.
— TishTash 4. September 16, 2009 7:09 am
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Maybe it’s because I’m a woman but I don’t get why both benches have to run out and join the fray when it’s just a scuffle between two guys? Is it a male fight mentality going on or what? Yanks can’t afford any injuries at this point in the season so why did they risk that by ALL running out there to join in?
— debdux 5. September 16, 2009 7:31 am
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if you look closely at the replays, you can see Carlson flap his glove at Posada’s arm as he goes by, BEFORE posada flipped his elbow up- away from the umpire. Since Posada’s elbow didn’t really hit the dude, at least not hard- it didn’t look like Posada was “more” at fault. at least not to me. of course,New Era Jordan Hats Sale, I am totally unbiased.
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— PAC 6. September 16, 2009 7:32 am
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There are supposedly times when brawls fire up a team that is playing lethargic baseball. This is not one of those times. With the season is nearly over and the Yankees having a playoff berth just about assured that was a foolish play by Posada.
— JimK 7. September 16, 2009 8:22 am
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As a veteran, it’s a bit disappointing to see Posada acting like a rookie, taking big offense at a pitch that didn’t touch him. Never mind the example to his kids, how about the other younger Yankees? I should hope he apologizes to both teams, takes his suspension without complaint and begins to see how important it is to lead your team into the playoffs with your head held high. This wasn’t Pedro, it’s a mop-up reliever; get real!
— scottso 8. September 16, 2009 8:33 am
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Well this proves that ‘boys will be boys’ and apparently that some of the Yankees have not really grown up.
Thank goodness for the lateness of the hour when this occurred – how many of these players would have had their children see this??
This kind of reaction, without any reasonable thinking, could keep this team from post-season play and that would be a shame for the Yankees who are playing by the rules.
— Annie Savoy 9. September 16, 2009 8:44 am
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I have to be honest about this: it’s great to see this team so passionately engaged. At the beginning of the season (not to mention end of last season), who woulda thought it. How do you do a loud WHOOP! in a blog comment. For the Yankees fans in the Army, make that HOOAH!
— Tom T. 10. September 16, 2009 9:03 am
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How can Joyce say with a straight face that Carlton wasn’t looking for contact (and Rod for that matter). He was not backing up homeplate as he should have been. I’d like to know when backing up homeplate meant standing in front of it with your back to the field. He was looking for contract from Jorge to start something.
— jennifer 11. September 16, 2009 9:25 am
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Just watched it again. Carlson moved his arm out right before Jorge went by. He was looking for contract
— jennifer 12. September 16, 2009 9:29 am
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lovely behavior for adults — great role models. how pathetic.
— Arlene 13. September 16, 2009 9:35 am
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We have a long list, don’t we? Two tennis players, Joe Wilson and the Republicans with their harassing signs in the congress, all the people who carry nasty, racist signs about Obama,Washington Nationals Hats sale, a rap star who humiliates a young woman on TV,cheap San Francisco Giants Hats, and now baseball players.
The town hall people and others might say they represent a large group, but all the uncivil actors are an extreme minority.
Most of us just go calmly along doing our jobs or trying to find jobs and being civil in our behavior. And most of us expect that of our so-called “protesters,” our politicians, and our music and sports too.
— JAB 14. September 16, 2009 9:38 am
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Look what Serena has started.
— Not thinking outside the batter’s box. 15. September 16, 2009 9:39 am
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WOW ! I wish I can go to work , fight, and still keep my multi million dollar salary. sorry but ball players still are poor role models.
— Carlos Roman 16. September 16, 2009 9:39 am
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Joe Wilson, Serena, Kanye, now this, all grownups who are very well-off professionals and have every reason to know better yet somehow seem incapable of self-control in not-especially-difficult moments.
What a bunch of babies we’ve become.
— cantor43 17. September 16,Red Bull Hats, 2009 9:39 am
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Why is everyone talking about this? Look plain and simple violence is very American. WE LOVE IT!!!
— harried 18. September 16, 2009 9:40 am
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Disappointing to say the least.
I admired this team for being epitome of professionalism, not indulging beaning oppponents like Garza of Tampa Bay or Backett of Red Sox. I was proud of the fact that they did not act all macho. And then they do this. What is Jorge thinking?
We are not like rest of them. When you are called out on strikes, you walk even if you disagree. When you get hit, you take the 1st without charging the pitcher. The only way to get back is to beat the other team. That is the sweetest revenge of them all..
Of course,Cheap Apparel, its easier said than done. But thats why you have to do it and be above the rest.
Inexcusable. We are not Red Sox. Hope Girardi sends a strong message. May be even Cashman or Baby Boss should remind them what is means to be a Yankee.
— NS 19. September 16, 2009 9:40 am
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I believe it was the late Rodney Dangerfield who said ” I went to the fights and a hockey game broke out”, looks like he had the wrong game
— kj 20. September 16, 2009 9:40 am
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The team of “class.”
— Bob 21. September 16, 2009 9:40 am
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Our beloved Blue Jays, though not by any means a fabulous team this year and cannot attract many fans to their homegames,are not shirks in defending one of their own.
We’ll fill Toronto’s Skydome with angry fans when the Yankees next come north.
— Pat in Toronto 22. September 16, 2009 9:42 am
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Dear Jorge,
Your kids should be forced to watch it and you should have to explain it to them. It’s called being an adult. You should try it sometime.
— anthony 23. September 16, 2009 9:42 am
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Petulant ,juvinile children
sort of dispells the myth
of the “noble” athlete and role
“model” for our children .
More like overpriced thugs ..
— ariel 24. September 16, 2009 9:43 am
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jennifer is correct, you don’t back up a possible play at the plate on a ball hit to right field on the first base side of home plate in the runner’s path. Either Carlson needs a refresher on how to back up home plate or he was looking to start something.
— Rod 25. September 16, 2009 9:43 am
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Why is anyone surprised that a Yankee did something unsportsmanlike? From A-Rod to Giambi (yes, he’s gone now, sure), the lineup’s comprised of jerks who’re absolved of their guilt because they have “fire.” Posada knows he was wrong: no one says he hopes his kids didn’t see him start a fight if he thinks he was in the right. Money and power don’t justify bad behavior.
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