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Old 08-09-2011, 11:53 AM   #1
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Default 香港6合彩 下岗职工欲购经适房发现价格一度超过商品房

  王金梅:“就是他们都没有公开,也是不合法的。”
  有居民将此事在网络上公布后,很快引来了媒体的关注。
  王金梅表示没有问题。
  8、电梯费:一部20万元。



  夏先生认为:“如果涉县经适房的电梯,不包含后期维修保养的费用,楼层又不高,品牌也是国产的,那么, 确实电梯费很贵了,中芯国际新CEO落定邱慈云:控制权争夺告一段落。即使在上海,七八层高的楼房电梯,不包括维修保养费,7万~8万元也可以搞定了。”




  4、电力增容费:63元/平方米。



  她查阅法规,发现在《经济适用房管理办法》的第20条明确提到:确定经济适用住房的价格应当以保本微利 为原则。……房地产开发企业实施的经济适用住房项目利润率按不高于3%核定;市、县人民政府直接组织建设的 经济适用住房只能按成本价销售,不得有利润。“此外我还查到,经济适用住房建设用地以划拨方式供应,土地成 本远远小于商品房;同时,经济适用房还享受国家规定的各项税费优惠政策,红客网,这就更让我怀疑,到底是哪些成本让涉县的经济适用房价格高于商品房?”

  夏先生分析:“我认为贷款这部分是有问题的,可能存在‘过度贷款,把利息摊到房价里’的问 题。实务中,QQ破解方法,房地产开发商贷款一般有两种情况:一种是因为钱不够,有意作为财务杠杆,这种比较常见;另一种是可以一下 子把钱拿出来,但为了在银行累积信用,开发商过度贷款。在这里,确实不排除第二种动机。”

  对于王金梅的遭遇,中国建设管理与房地产法研究中心执行主任王才亮律师表示,涉县房管局在没有经济适用 房立项、建设和预售许可的情况下,QQ破解方法 云南男子杀2人获死缓续 受害方2天收到15笔,并且既未建造、也未公布价格,就要求每户业主预交房款,显然“没有法律依据”。

  6、前期费用:294.11元/平方米。
  王金梅认为,前期费用所占比例过大,“我问到的情况,是一般占3%左右,而这项又高于10 %。”


  王金梅:“但是我听说最近国家颁布了一个《政府信息公开法》,这个法说,涉及到民生的重要事项都应该公 布,经济适用房就是关系到每一个老百姓切身利益的问题,为什么就不能公开?”

  涉县房管所相关工作人员在回答媒体提问时称,现有价格并非经济适用房的最终价格,还称太行市场南住宅小 区是“小产权房”,并不是商品房;商贸城东住宅小区还没有取得预售证,网上所说的售价很可能并 不准确。

  其实,前文中王金梅与彭海青科长的对话并未结束,王金梅早已想到,随着房价飞涨,一度高于商品房价格的 经济适用房,如今俨然已是县内的低价房,成都手机窃听卡,“现在看上去,让人感到没有任何问题,所以,我要想找出其中可能隐藏的‘猫儿腻’,只有从经济适用房的详 细成本中入手,华夏黑客联盟网址。”


  抱着这一问题,下岗职工王金梅展开了她对经济适用房成本的调查。

  现在,她也许找到了答案,但这个答案带给她的却是更大的震惊、更多的困惑。
  ……



  夏先生认为,“按照一般经验,这个税率偏高。一般建筑行业算的税是指建安税,3点多左右是比较正常的。 比如,上海市区是3.41%,按理说,郊区应该更便宜。河北涉县至多相当于上海外环以外的水准,照例说不会 超过3.5%”。
  3、地价:8万元/亩。
  王金梅曾认为,在2008年的冬天,自己拥有房屋的梦想即将实现,“当时我那个高兴啊,因为那时,涉县 公布要开发名为‘龙山庭院’经济适用房,手机监听设备 老师带学生上树躲洪水逃生(图)www.yj667。”

  “根据《经济适用法价格管理办法》,经济适用房实行“保本微利”原则,一般利润不超过3%。涉县经济适 用房价格高过同期商品房价格,显然不属合理现象。因为经济适用房建设享受了政府多项优惠政策,其价格绝不可 以超过商品房的价格。”王才亮律师说,此外,“拒绝公开经济适用房成本明细,称经济适用房是‘政府定价’, 不需要公开,显然违反了依法行政的要求,也违反了政府信息公开的规定。‘政府定价就是政府说啥就是啥’,是 一些官员缺乏法治理念的表现。房主要求公开经济适用房成本的要求,不仅合理,而且合法。”


  “政府定成啥算啥”

  她多方打探发现,在2010年年初,邯郸市紫薇苑经济适用房多层价格为1950元/平方米,同期新乡市经适房均价为1700元/平方米。“涉县只是邯郸市下面的一个县城,这些地方都比涉县发达,收入也要高,当然建设成本也 会高,但是,银色精灵人气高涨 诺基亚E6仅2190元,却与涉县的经济适用房价格持平。”



  当经济适用房的价格高于商品房时,带给人们的不只是震惊,还有困惑。


  王金梅与夏先生未表示有异议。
  “可是最后,经济适用房的价格还是没有变化。如果我们没有在2009年交了那买经济适用房的钱,而去买 那时只有1000多元的商品房的话,就好了。”由于经济困难,王金梅没有办法将经济适用房的余款补齐,最后 还是放弃了买房梦。
  杨虎芳说,关于经济适用房的成本,“专业问题比较多”,自己并不清楚。



  王金梅:“咱县没有,人家大城市自来水水价调价都是开听证会的。”
  但夏先生认为:“电力增容费在实务操作中是有可能收取的,香港6合彩。比如,一个小区离电厂超过了200公里,这种情况下,就确实需要电力增容。以我个人经手房屋建造的经验来 看,上海是有收的例子的。当然,电力增容并不是每个项目都需要,如果小区不是距离电厂过远、或像工厂一样有 大量的用电需要,就不需要收取。”




  杨虎芳表示,“据我所知,这个情况也有老百姓向物价部门反映过,物价局已经确认是没有问题的……现在, 涉县普通商品房的价格已经在3200元、3300元了,小产权房也很少低于3000元。但是,‘龙山庭院’ 的房子一直是那个价。”

  王金梅认为“这很荒谬”,“其实,电力增容费国家在2003年已明令取消,华夏黑客联盟官网,我也去我县电力局调查过,人家说早不收了。后来我拿着从网上下载的国家文件去找过彭科长,他说国家虽然取 消了,但省里有文件,我让他出示省里的文件,他借口忙把我支到了别处。”
  彭海青:“你这个也一样,听证会是开,各种代表都有,说是准备调价。为啥来,因为成本高了,自来水公司 没利了,就开听证会,结果听证会开完了,并不把这个作为一个依据。你下面参与人员不服气也好,什么也好,政 府照样调。为啥呢,这就叫政府定价……政府定价并不是说你下面人想说多少政府就给你们定多少,而是政府决策 了,你下面听,知道了吧?”
  经济适用房一度贵过同期商品房

  最后,王金梅找到了政府。
  夏先生认为,前期费用是有可能占到如此比重的。


  幸福的时间总是过得很快,王金梅回忆,在经过报名、核实、公示等一系列程序后,“2009年1月,房管 所在未向我们公布价格的情况下进行了抽号,并打了一张收据,收了我们8万元房款。后来我们得知,其实那时候 的经济适用房还是一片荒地,施工方在2009年1月12日才办下施工许可证。那时候,我们虽然知道这样的程 序不符合国家规定,但我们想,经济适用房利润微薄,如果再让开发商投资,肯定没人愿意干,政府部门操作起来 也困难,所以,我们高高兴兴地交了那8万块钱,没有提出异议。”
  彭海青:“你从网上查一查,或者从国家物价部门咨询咨询,有没有一家的经济适用住房的成本 是公开的?”
  夏先生认为,“目前行业实践中,没有规定配套设施费的比例需要控制在哪个区间内,近300 元/平方米也不是没有可能。其实,最基本的水电安装一般是涵盖在建安费里面的。以上海为例,一个附带会馆等的小 区,可能配套设施费就很高。但就涉县而言,如果这个经济适用房小区不是盖在一个需要配备这些设施的地方,而 只是配备了基本的水电管网,这个数字确实是相对偏高的。”
  王金梅认为,此数据出入过大,“我问过一家开发商的经理,他说配套设施费(就是水电管网费)一般占总投 资的0.5%。而这个数据至少占10%以上”。
  涉县建设局分管此事的刘姓副局长则对媒体表示,经济适用房小区对面的一个商品房小区,每平方米现在卖2 800元,相形之下,经济适用房已便宜很多。

  王金梅用视频记录下了这番交流。





  一个公民的经济适用房成本调查


  王金梅认为,这很荒唐,“我在邯郸市政府网站上看到,这个经济适用住房工程项目的法人招标公告提到,‘ 项目总投资约1.1亿元’。而且,房子还没盖,我们就交了钱,他们还贷了两亿七,这实在是太离 奇了。”
  业内人士分析经济适用房成本
  彭科长:“不,不,就是说合法不合法,这是一种政府管价的方式。如果说北京,国家大部分城市的经济适用 住房价格明细是公开的,唯独涉县物价局没有公开,这是涉县物价局的问题。如果全国都没有公开,说明这是政府 的潜规则,不需要公开。”
  “虽然说,这些我认为有问题的款项,加起来也许只有几百元/平方米,LinkedIn遭两家主承销商下调评级,但‘龙山庭院’经济适用房建筑面积有20万平方米,也就是说,光交早已被废除的63元/平方米的电力增容费,就交了1260万元,那么,其他这种我认为有问题的钱,那些住经济适用房的老百姓们又 交了多少?这些,已超出了我的调查能力。”王金梅最后迷茫地说。



  2、税率:5.55%,


  ……



  5、配套设施费:299.11元/平方米。



  彭海青:“你让我说完,这个经济适用房啊,是国家定价,国家定价是个什么概念,国家就是政府,政府定成 啥算啥。这个有些东西可以给百姓说,向你透明,有些东西不能说。啥叫政府定价,它是个行政干预,比如说石油 调价,自来水调价,今儿调价,明儿调价,谁还能问政府你为啥调价?为啥不给我解释一下?”


  “可没想到,真的高过了。”2010年3月,涉县经济适用房的价格公布了,王金梅对这一价格震惊不已, “天啊,竟然比商品房还贵。有1750元/平方米和2050元/平方米两个不等的标准。”


  7、贷款2.7亿,利息平均到房价里是75.17元/平方米。
  经济适用房不是为收入处于中下层的百姓建的吗?为什么会贵过商品房呢?


  1、建筑安装工程费:低层846.62元/平方米,高层1076元/平方米。

  “找建设局未果后,建设局把我推到了物价局,在多次跑物价局后,LinkedIn遭两家主承销商下调评级,物价局的彭海青科长终于愿意和我多说上几句。”王金梅说,这时时间已到了2011年的4月。
  王金梅与夏先生未表示有异议。
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19-year-old runaway for love 29-year-old boy together Liu Guojiang chasing a group of peers all the way palanquin. because he broke his front teeth knocked a few days ago, according to custom, the children out front teeth in the mouth as long as the bride touch, the new teeth to grow back.
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after eating the food brought, Liu Guojiang went to the river fishing, Xu Zhaoqing dig wild plants. They also opened up a few garden vegetables food. Although the pick wild fruit drink spring water, but the conditions willingly, let know how much.
1957 summer, a rainstorm washed away the huts where they live, Liu Guojiang holding Xu Zhaoqing and children to the highest ridge of a cave. cried and told her husband that night Xu Zhaoqing : , Liu Guojiang himself with stones puzzle burning kiln, one year after the burning tiles needed to build a house together.


they sometimes down, and take more than 4 hours to the nearest market Changle buy pigs 'used to buy iron road' to send their children to high school ......
Beach Banpo Primary School in the high mountains behind the mountains Tan, and the village had the trail is only one thorny connected Liu Guojiang afraid his wife travel fell Gendou, thought, why not spare the time for cutting a stone staircase she do?
So he began in the rugged Furuto cliffs and thousands of years, the hard to cut their ladder of love.


every slack, Liu Guojiang to hold iron 'hammer' with a few boiled potatoes early in the morning to go out. He holes in the rock, then stand on the effect of clay on the cliffs' civil or stone building ladder. Xu Zhaoqing hurt him, but he always said: , Liu Guojiang wiping a sweat to raise iron. wind blows, he is still close to the cliff on the cutting order. hungry, eating a few potato; thirsty, and skim a few mouthfuls of spring. Hanlaishuwang, half a century later, Liu Guojiang by the young man became an old man, the iron chisel rotten to 20,nike lebron, Castle Peak clouds, the cliffs next to as many as 6000 stands impressively.


6000 级 ladder! that almost exhausted the entire lifetime of a man!
they rely on vegetables and hands raised seven children, each other old maidservant do not like the outside world.
2001, the Liu Guojiang and Xu Zhaoqing is a team that outdoor tourism, travel, deeply moved and surprised this team will bring down their love story and to the stone steps called love story.
Jiangjin County have been to, even in the town, Liu Guojiang only been a few times. If he has something coming out, she would come down the mountain before dark to wait for single-plank bridge, and so with people who love to climb the ladder of love to go home - - Bridge the other end is the real world, they never cross the bridge all right.
couple made an appointment: If you go first, and the other will be buried in the mountains, then down, and son to live, after the death of his wife to be transported up the mountain and buried.
Today, love has really reached the end of the ladder.
dark rain
; 82-year-old woman walking alone Love 6000 年 12 月 ladder
2007 7 am 3 pm, got up as usual Liu Guojiang go to watch the crops, the monkeys because the mountains' wild boar and other animals, often at night to spoil crops. About an hour later, Liu Guojiang returned home, Xu Zhaoqing not found his face and saw he had just sat down in the bed, Under the sudden Zaidao!
never had the heart to beat violently. This is how, and his wife ten years younger than her age, then, his health has always tough than she is, how will suddenly lay down and told him to not respond? room from been in a silence, the silence that Xu Zhaoqing jumpy, restless, her eyes suddenly Pusu Su falling tears, she had an ominous premonition.
dark, Xu Zhaoqing crazy Banpo rushed like the Peak, is Liu Guojiang cut staggered back to housing, struggling to be nearly twice the weight of his wife carry their own bed, blanket covered mountains 1,500 meters above sea level --- the top middle of the night was cold. to do. She picked up the torch, despite the darkness of night rain and mud, decided to punch down the hill. and the were previously Liu Guojiang holding her hand and helped her down the mountain, or Liu Guojiang down work, she waited for him at home. Liu Guojiang never assured her alone on mountain roads. But this time, he was in the dark rainy night, 82-year-old Xu Zhaoqing alone down --- only an idea she thought she wanted to save his wife!
rainy night,lebron james vii, the slippery ladder, the white-haired old lady hard to moving forward. ladder on the right into the abyss is daunting, but fortunately the left of the mountain cliff, carefully Liu Guojiang also carved a small hole like the shaman slip of the sediment, otherwise, Xu Zhaoqing is really unable to move. However, each down one step, Xu Zhaoqing's heart clench a similar pain. It is wife for her cutting down the mountain road up the mountain, and now, his wife suddenly fell unconscious, life and death unknown, she had a man walking in the ladder on this. At first, she and her husband hand in hand on the ladder, and now the rain is falling, he was struggling to moving forward alone. The first She suspected that 6000 ladder to go here, for so long.


slip do not know how many times the number covered in mud rolling, Xu Zhaoqing stumbled, fell down again and again, get up again and again ...... Two hours later, early in the morning more than 5, she finally beat his son opened the door LIU Ming-sheng.
LIU Ming-sheng petrified. He absolutely can not think of his mother late at night will of a person down, but unkempt, covered with coated in mud. He almost did not recognize their own biological mother. realizing his father was an accident, LIU Ming-sheng quickly called on his wife and home owners, ran up the hill. Xu Zhaoqing and son have to them up the hill, but his shoulder ', back and waist have been hurt, and his son to follow firm did not let her up the mountain.
was still dark, LIU Ming-sheng, who had rushed to the top. At this point, Liu Guojiang has been unable to speak. LIU Ming-sheng, and people will soon be the father carried down the mountain. all the way, they saw the cold, the mother Xu Zhaoqing holding the shoulders, standing Yuanba, and the mountains around. Xu North Korea was the son of his wife Kiyomi carried down,nba shoes, she had been sitting beside his wife. dawn, the doctor was invited home. After diagnosis, Liu Guojiang cerebrovascular rupture, causing a brain haemorrhage. What doctors advised him to prepare for his funeral.
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towards clearing stood by his side, hardly had a thing .6 days, Liu Guojiang can do is to let the isolated from the world of life.
When you get back to scoop a spoon for me, do not you ask me sweet sweet. MISCELLANE can not sweet it, since followed you, I eat what is sweet. ; : plane, so the train. You said your body better than me, younger than me to show me the nail in the coffin. would not you say ......no one else complain about the Suddenly some irritability, Xu Zhaoqing looked down his fingers, is a hammer in the corner. Xu Zhaoqing suddenly understood that she will hammer and brought it and got an iron, put beside his wife, Liu Guojiang finally quiet down. Xu Zhaoqing brush the tears off the face is.
; love away
; which accompany me to sing (seventh Wang Lang)
16:40 pm the same day, Liu Guojiang his son closed his eyes forever home. side , stood the most to witness the cutting of their masterpiece of love ################ ladder, Liu Guojiang and Xu Zhaoqing has been firmly holds the hand of his son LIU Ming-sheng dragging and dragging for a long time did not.
entire day, 82-year-old Xu Zhaoqing almost no body had been dragged, so still as sculpture. she has been satisfied to sit in wooden pretend that promised to accompany her lifetime. take care of her love life. for Xu Zhaoqing, the husband was gone that day, than she and her his wife's hand, has been in tears. LIU Ming-sheng said his father put his son buried in the Peak, which is the No, your father was buried where, I'll live. I will always stay by his side. without me, he will get used to. toward the clear did not eat almost anything. She refused to leave the couch to be with his wife. When Liu Guojiang was placed in the coffin, the Xu Zhaoqing is still lying in the black coffin, and the br> , Xu Zhaoqing do not need others to answer ------face to the coffin, and with the hand on another ask. shed tears still hanging in the cheeks, the new tears. and his eyes overflow.
12 月 18 at 4 pm , Xu Zhaoqing to live a lie .3 .4 hour and a half hours ..... that she loves the half-century of Finally, to accompany around. mountains custom, she could not send him buried, only watched a loved one far away. Xu Zhaoqing pair of skinny and pale next to firmly grasp the hand of trees. drizzling rain, sounded every wrinkle trembled.
ago and his wife most like to sing folk songs ------, sad love songs linger linger on the ladder:
Lang, who started to get up early to look
I slept gum disease
Lang m going round to look Yi Lang
; left hand should not be led by Lang Lang
Lang Lang does not taste right hand pull
; I asked Lang to eat Which
Lang agreed to: do not want all sorts of delicious
; just want to shake hands until dawn
; two days, said Wang Lang
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