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Old 05-24-2011, 11:11 AM   #1
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the new network on July 18, Zhejiang Electric knife broke into the police station, resulting in six dead and five injured, Yang assaulting events lead to social concerns. The face of appalling tragedy, part of the public's response was interesting, pity sympathy, apathy, attitude behind the trigger relative to what we think? Yang Ma Jiajue assaulting from case to case, faced with a variety of complex reasons for extreme violence, how should we look to rational analysis?
recently, people are very concerned about Yang Jia Shanghai Beijing Youth killing case, many people can not understand, this next month to 28-year-old Beijing Youth in the end is what the reason, will row in Shanghai killing six policemen. Well, this does not understand the voice inside, we also see there are as many voices in praise Yang's actions, even calling for the righteous Patrick. Yansong how you look at these people that praise of Patrick's?
One person (News Observer):

I think the time, the heart will be whispered, do we also need to reflect on their own, the community also need to reflect on how to have a more harmonious society and our inner world.
Moderator:


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Explanation:

7 月 14, the second branch of the Procuratorate of Shanghai Shanghai assaulting a police officer suspected of spreading rumors of Jia case of insider Xiao Yin approved the arrest of a time, Yang killing case once again become the focus of public attention.
armed with Shanghai Public Security Bureau of Zhabei Branch, stab 11 people, killed six people, injured five people. July 1, the Beijing Youth Yang moment with such an extreme way the national media attention as the news people.
according to the Shanghai police announced the case, the incident the same day, Yang hand with a knife, a hand-held tear gas, in the Zhabei branch on the ground floor lobby, corridor and other differences have attacked a security guard and four police; then fleeing into the south side of Patrick from the first floor the fire stairs, climb up the ninth floor, a knife to the 48-year-old traffic police launched a surprise attack Latvia Xu, Xu Via stabbed multiple body fell to the ground; Yang sneaked into the tenth floor and from the fire ladder, stabbed 27-year-old traffic police Wang Lingyun; then Yang fled to the Eleventh House, but also on the number of 49-year-old police knife pierced Li Ke, Ke, hit hard by the chest and abdomen, severe wounds and died later. In this way, 28-year-old Yang Jia who produced bloodshed this shaking.
after the incident, many people do not understand how much hatred, let him take such a reckless brutality.
According to Yang himself confessed that he is because of the attack in October last year on suspicion of stealing bicycles Zhabei branch review had been dissatisfied with police officers in retaliation for the implementation.
Second Branch of the Shanghai Municipal People's Procuratorate of staff:

We are the second branch of the Shanghai Municipal People's Procuratorate of staff, now you carefully look at the rights and obligations of the suspect this book.
Explanation:

7 月 2 the afternoon, that is, the day after assaulting a police officer Yang, Jia Xiao Yin in the network issued a report entitled post, in the post, Jia Yin Xiao Yang said due to accept the Zhabei Public Security Bureau police interrogation when beaten, resulting in the loss of fertility and the initiation of revenge assaulting a police officer, etc., the article was then reproduced in a large number of other sites, the Procuratorate is based on this behavior, Yin Xiao Jia was on the arrest.
about Yang Jia's case there is a phenomenon worth noting, on the Internet, many perpetrators of killings of more than Yang has compassion, even some friends on the Internet for the righteous Patrick shouted. Bloody face of such a case, part of the public mood worth thinking deeply.
Moderator:

people to sympathize with this sentiment has long been weak, but why children in this matter, because after all, Yang Jia killed six people, and let five people seriously injured, Why are there a lot of people to sympathize with him, even called him righteous?
One person:

you back to the specific time that the event itself who is weak? He was carrying a weapon, was stabbed to death and stabbed the man he did not prepare any, but I am afraid that the hands do not have any weapon, from which point of view, he is strong.
but I think the factors behind this are very complex and probably not a reason to can be explained in clear, may be both a long time you will feel the police should have some practice is not correct, so we may there will be an emotional, which is a,christian louboutin black, but the police are also changing.
second possibility is that a lot of people put the lives of the police at this time specifically negligible, but to these specific lives turned into a powerful institution, so we see individuals with a a powerful body, with the police this game, and the local when he did win, so with such individuals as
third, we may have life, and because the wages did not rise, or that had been subjected to review, or how, each with their own boredom, so take this event at this time as a local a gas outlet. I think these factors, but both of these factors, nor can a network, you can go in the living space inside release, this time to a full life is ignored. We have just experienced a make everyone more aware that life is precious, a life of distress with dozens of people to rescue such a big earthquake, why is almost a short time later in the emergence of such a life disregard it? So that six police life? I think this is something we have to go think about this issue.
Moderator:

But when we hear Patrick talk about why he did that from his point of view about this, when he went to Shanghai to play,ralph lauren america, and then he rented a bike by the police to the seizure, and that he is stolen cars, this matter was also Yang Jiaqing white, but also I think you Patrick for innocent is not enough,five fingers, I must find a way, he is the motive of this murder. Some people may be sympathetic to Yang and Yang praised this argument, I am afraid they will think of the prosecution in the past there has been public security governance to the fact that torture, but I am afraid that this association as you just said.
One person:

each of these years, we are almost in the more years to establish the concept of people-oriented way,purses coach, in the past there have been people did not want to see the sorts of things. And in many cases in which, even in the most recent, and perhaps also see the local area, local police will be more assertive, more brutal use of police force such an event, so everyone's heart there is a shadow of the disease as a mountain down, disease go away on foot, restore image, create a new image needs a process.
But in such a process, I actually just saw a police assassination of a blog written by his wife, I believe a lot of people can see, the beginning said that this blog is not written in her own , and later proven that she had written, we now can see in the PPT in a way, I will not recover specific local, but here are a few words very deep impression on me.
First of all, she said, when you see a lot of cruelty, as the suspect turned a blind eye, but question the behavior of police incompetence, etc., the police killed her as a wife was very upset and angry, she said Zheshi Rang me once again usher in a fatal blow. Then she also made an explanation, when her husband was in the 11 building, 11 floor, in addition to her husband's office and a room no other person, what would you say he prepare for it? The room where the sound is very large, along with two colleagues can not hear outside sounds. Her husband meter eighty six, very robust, with more than one person who fought against the winner or, if he can see if I restore a police mission in the process of time, perhaps even a weapon Patrick, it may not be The police set to kill, but there is no preparedness, stabbed into it, and after some struggle. Later, his wife said in a blog is, perhaps, because my husband and he delayed the time of this fight, so that he can not go down to a higher floor to further hurt the other police.
but still come back to this one lady said, I once again felt the fatal blow, is ah, this is the life ah. Why is life in front of six, actually have such language on Yang Jia compliment, I think this one is indeed worthy of our reflection, and establish each of the public has a life of dignity and inner life of consciousness and of life such a pity may be a long process.
Moderator:

you say is important, but the question is who is who should issue after, say, a lot of people do in the analysis of why Patrick. Because we now see the current identification of the person for Yang Jia, who is not mentally, he is not a mental illness, that he take such a move, and then we'll see a move after his arrest, he was very legal consciousness, such a rational, legal awareness of people in that case why take such an extreme measure?
One person:

I think we can not simply take these things directly divided into an equal sign, the first may have watched us, and later recovered, police in the last year was 10 When the month because he was riding a car without a license, no license bike, when the entire inventory process of the dialogue I have seen. He said this is the case,replica jacob & co watches, why other people do not check so that you only check my dialogue, that dialogue through the publication of view, emotional place where he did a lot of changes, but we can put him thought of as their own, If I rode a bike without a license and documents, the police to investigate the case is not desirable, then what has happened, I think the slow police should give us more details. For example, just rumors, I have seen rumors of this man, this is a young man in Suzhou, and his network called Later, after he was caught saying the words, I do not know the law, that the online Luanjiang not responsible, I am very sorry, he said I was to steal the show, the more bizarre, the more provocative, click rate will be The higher the birth so that he could not think of using such a thing, and so to attract the click-through rate.
But in such a process, we look back to think about, is not there some of the details we need to focus on the reason many people gave him a positive number of not with some other relationships are also described, for example, said he was breaking the rules, the time had little to dissuade his father not to throw cigarette butts, and people in the car seat, and so the details of such a series, so that everyone had a visual A judge called
I think at this time, we also need to think just a question of a person's heart is a good man, is not it would not be bad? Each individual is complex, I think we have to say goodbye to such a black and white theory of judging, it may on the one hand he will seat the other hand, will be crime. For example, a detail you may be ignored, he lived the fifth floor, in conflict with the sixth floor of the neighbor, his neighbor's doors once a bad kick, and saw he was very impulsive, in that matter should be called the impulse side, the last time of course, is the assassination of police brutality. So a person's body, I think we may be more and more slowly the feeling, in everyone's body, and I think I used to get their own, may my body will have some advantages, but a Some local time, this impulse, or some individual factors, I went to the other side, everyone is too complex, difficult to use a specific fruit because talk directly linked back together, we need to consider more complex human nature.
Moderator:

Yansong how do you think of this in a unique point of view this problem? Because I saw a saying, that is why make such a thing Patrick, because Patrick is a big city, a young Beijing to Shanghai to play, so when the police went to buckle him, he dare to ask the police so why, why do not you check my check people, and if we have a change to the hero into a rural to Shanghai to play the young, is not such a tragedy will not happen?
One person:

did I see such comments, as a Beijing citizen, may have a psychological advantage, that (anyone) how can you check me? He may even have a psychological advantage, but I also think that in any major city, then, on the one hand the advantage of this psychological fact is not reliable, first of all a big city should provide a better education, law-abiding, rational, and so many factors, I think it can not simply get to see its original cause. First, check that things should or should not, check the process that is now published, we hope to have another announcement. Of course, some experts say that people who caught the rumor, but he also admitted that indeed just a rumor, just now I have something for everyone to read, but if further, it should be a justice of the medical aspects of identification, for example, reproductive function in the end there is no problem, so that more convincing than a statement. Give us a more clear answer, it will be better.
I think that Patrick does this matter is very complex, but no matter how complex, indeed, have stated for some reason have we to think of a basis, but it is not something we can ignore one of the reasons life six life, this time after a major earthquake, which we think about this issue.
Moderator:

our program today, the Beijing Youth Yang concern is killing case in Shanghai, the program will resume later.
Moderator:

Yang Why in Shanghai will make the six died and five injured? Cause such damage to the police, who want to practice a lot of people do not know why, but if we look back at these years a number of similar incidents occurred at home and abroad, we also difficult to understand, then we know something through a video this case.

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Explanation:

This is Yang's personal blog, a dark blue background in this blog, he named himself Assaulting a police officer after the incident, this blog is from a number of blog users to find out. Although the word blog very little, but there are a lot of pictures, mostly taken during his tour.
Yang Jiabo the only one log off Posted on June 4 this year, a record above the experience of climbing in Beijing, at the end of this article says, participants remained in the first team win,
in this tragedy before assaulting a police officer, 28-year-old Yang Jia is a Beijing Youth less attention by teachers and students, he, like many of the same age boys like sports, have hobbies. Primary school student said he introverted, poor communication, and his junior high school teacher said he, mediocre, compared Danian, junior high school, his parents divorced, after which he has followed his mother lives.
photos Yang often a smile on his face, and the partners looked very happy together. Travel with him over the ALICE, said Yang in the circle was nicknamed the
on his blog, he jokingly describes himself as expectations. But is such a person, why not embark on a journey way back.
accused of being withdrawn, it is more like people want to find a different location they normal, but in such a crowd, a smile, such an explanation seems a little pale.
Moderator:

then Patrick came out to do this very extreme measures, people guessing with his character, with his mental there any reason? Are there any relationship? Next we will connect Beijing People's Police College, a professor of criminal psychology, Feng, Professor Kao is also a well-known expert in public safety crisis intervention.
Professor Ko Hello.
Gao Feng (public security crisis intervention expert):

Dong Qian Hello.
Moderator:

Professor Gao, from the perspective of criminal psychology, how do you do out of this move Patrick?
Gao Feng:

this is the first to answer this question, first of all to stand to clarify the facts and the scientific point of view more popular now a paradox, what is it? Yang bad if the police, the attack is linked to extraordinary police we do not regulate certain law enforcement together, this is untenable, because the Yang of this behavior is typical of a super-aggressive reaction. He has three unusual.
first, he was subject to interrogation, the police clashed with us after six months of such an event began, he was in last year's inventory, and he attacked the activities in the year, from the general situation, He should fade over time, emotions will calm gradually fade, but he was worse.
second, he planned this event in the state, but the state is going in the fuzzy-driven. You see him a man with a knife broke into the Zhabei Public Security Bureau, he wanted to attack the police, but to what extent the final attack, his psychology is not a few, he simply did not think holding a knife to go after, one can Ten people injured, claimed the lives of six people, which he can not think, can not think of him doing? He is hard, fight to what extent he was very vague. Crime in general, people that self-defense sophisticated design is not possible, the location of the crime, which is located to the Public Security Bureau in the unprecedented, nearly unprecedented, this is the second anomaly.
third, rushed into the Public Security Bureau after a killing in the Zhabei branch, lying on the ground has occurred in several people, a fatal case of the spot is still continuing series of killings, so typical of his condition criminal psychology to meet the kind of outrageous behavior which said he was Not to say that he was psychologically abnormal. The first, he was 12-year-old parents divorced; second, separate with his mother; the third, the long-term no contact with his father; the fourth, the negative psychological community accumulated in the brain too much. It can be said that even if Yang did not attack police, he encountered a similar view on the so-called unfair treatment and to reflect, he also attacks the others, he sooner or later, this behavior occurs, say in who's body is not clear. Yang million people a hard, hard five years out of time.
Moderator:

Professor Ko, I would like to know that this incident happened after the children, you stand on such a public crisis intervention, such a perspective, then, from the public's point of view, from the police point of view, there should be learned from this what kind of lessons?
Gao Feng:

should be said that lessons are profound.
first, we have to continue in law enforcement aspects of flexible, more standardized, in the course of our law enforcement to the greatest extent to gently check to reduce the
Second, the huge base of a Public Security Bureau can not set the security forces.
third, holding a sharp knife when he broke into the office, when the first policeman fell to the ground, behind the relief should be to keep up with, and to strengthen the police's self-protection, to stop crimes, the ability to not only in the special police, the Interpol, the security police, the same office in the sit is a basic essential for the police, so that latter point, we can avoid the ultimate sacrifice. Therefore, the lessons of this is extremely deep and painful.
Moderator:

good, thank Professor Xie Gaofeng.
consider Patrick this happened, at least raised a wake, because the psychological invisible, intangible, I am afraid that the police raised a wake, in the end how to do.
One person:

do you find recent years, been to the country from abroad, this non-traditional crime in significantly increased, and why is called non-traditional crime? Mental defects, character flaws, personality defects, or even no reason crime.
me give an example, say we have seen in Tokyo, Akihabara on June 8, from Patrick that case only 20 days, we are now able to see where in the PPT, when he to buy weapons, surveillance video have been filmed, and later still in line, I would go to Akihabara to commit a crime, we all use a traditional thinking, how can a crime like people to tell others, and he really went to the site, resulting in seven deaths, ten people were injured, no one knows, so no difference in Japan is called the killings, what does that mean? If the Chinese to understand, then called killing the innocent for no reason. I specifically asked for this matter to the police, the police told me the case is the most difficult to break the case for no reason, because the traditional detection programs have to find the relationship between the intricate, but when the character defects or mental defect or personality defects caused by crime, no reason, you can not find traces of the traditional detection process, you do not know why he crime.
I think that with the increase of crime in post-modern, there is more than eccentric, character defects, and so, I think life should be more to strengthen people-centered, it seems this is a very political words is actually very important, when you realize that a lot of life experience and personality necessary to send people who have some flaws, the society if not close the door, not indifference, or even for example in law enforcement, Professor Kao also talked about just now, and we that every aspect is a kind of softness, and harmony, he might not have cell response, I also noted that some public security organs have in the past few years, stressed the need to pay attention to some of community or social character defects , a private person, etc., who often talk to them so that they have an outlet, I think this is a good change of consciousness.
In addition, in fact, behind the big people-oriented needs of each individual's consciousness, of life have a higher respect for each of us say that the Government should or should not people-oriented? Of course, every life that should not have to pay a heavy price? Have to save it? This, however, related to term and term of the government is closely related to each of us, we might become the future government among the people, if we are praised Yang for the righteous, is when such a view of life, how will we can we expect a people-oriented and full respect for the life of the government? It is us, we are actually not a confrontation between the feeling of the young people today is that many people in the future government. So this is very impressive and there will be a worry. I think the longer term perspective, the Yang Jia case to remind us of the need to consider many new crime; the other hand, most people first have to fall into the most real reality.
Moderator:

some time before you interview the Secretary of Beijing Detective Ma Zhenchuan, have you talked to about this?
One person:

not specifically mentioned this, but I noticed a few years, and that he especially mentioned that in the past few years we have emphasized that the ordinary If the character has some drawbacks, and so people often go to talk to the police going to communicate with them, there are some clear, is clear that the psychological, I think not only in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China should be more police around In his mind there is a sense of a new crime is no reason why the potential environmental crime, mental deficiency type of crime, but we are certainly not saying that Patrick is the case, perhaps more, with the Public Prosecution After the indictment, there will be more facts to show in front of everybody, maybe some of us today is not to judge, but even so, this awareness should be enhanced.
Moderator:

you just said, and now society becomes more complex, and the people more and more development, it is hard to understand ... ...
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